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    Old 12-20-2010, 02:25 PM
    Ironbuket Ironbuket is offline
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    Unhappy Returing to WOW after 2Yr break

    I’ve been reading PC Gamer for about a year and that got me in to EVE. More recently articles on Catacysim in the last two issues have managed to break my over 2 year abstinence from WOW when last weekend I reactivated my old account. Even my girlfriend has installed a trial account, but (so far) she is holding off reactivating her real WOW account.

    I created a Horde mage character on Steamweedle Cartel as I thought it might be nice to join the PCGamer guild. I haven’t ever played Mage above 30s and thought it might be fun. Unfortunately a few things are putting me off:

    I choose a very non role playing type name for my character. Having never played on an RP server before, am I likely to get forced to change this at some point? Everyone else I saw had fantasy type names, although I didn’t have a big sample to look at.
    I played through most of Sunday and only saw 3 other players (whilst outside a city).
    I went to the AH and found there was very little stuff for sale. Many items only appeared once at very high prices.

    On top of this my dream of levelling up a frost mage and AE farming my way to riches and high level went out the window when I discovered the Blizzard spell has been moved to Lv52...

    I am currently torn between continuing to level up a new character on SWC (possibly not a mage anymore) or go back to my old server

    Have I just caught it on a bad day or is this server very low population with a bad economy?

    My old sources of info dont serve me as well anymore either: Thottbot seems to now have a lot missing and keeps referencing content on wowhead, but wowhead has things missing which are only on thotbott – WTH is going on there…

    Wow Vault doesn’t even have a talent calculator anymore and all the race and class tables have gone.

    Are there any one stop shops for WOW still? I used to get able to get along fine with just Thottbot and WOW Vault.
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    Old 12-20-2010, 02:47 PM
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    The whole world has changed, along with 90-odd% off all quests - it's no major suprise for me to discover that the updates on Wowhead aren't fully current as yet. There is a lot of data to update.

    SWC isn't exactly dead. I find it to be quite a vibrant community to be honest.

    Being an RPG server doesnt seem to have a major impact on names, however I'm certainly no expert and depending what it is will/may dictate whether or not you have to change it in the future.

    If you went in thinking its going to be the same as 2 years ago, it's not.
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    Old 12-20-2010, 02:54 PM
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    Hiya! I moved your thread, as it doesn't really belong in the 'IMPORTANT: Read this first' section. I'll try to give you a few honest answers, althought you seem a bit down on WoW or you must have just had a bad experience in the short time you tried SWC. There's usually 60-100 guildies online since the release of Cata.

    RP realm rules require people to use names of a 'fantasy' origin. That said, not all of my chars meet that requirement and not everyone uses a strictly RP name. I have only once been asked to change a char name. It's an RP realm, no getting past that really.

    SWC is a fairly low pop server. The economy is terribad. That said, I would laugh at the suggestion that anyone would leave the server and PCG guild behind for that reason alone. Anything and everything that goes on in guild masks or hides any server related problems imo. There's always tons of people on when I'm online. Epsecially Sundays. Maybe that's just me, but in my experience PCG pretty much caters for everything that the server poplation lacks. However, I've never really played seriously on any other realm. It maybe different for you.

    I've never used WoW Vault. Wowhead is an amazing source of info. Thotbott not so much. Wowhead usually gives me everything I need info wise. Beyond that, a google search never fails. Just think about the way you phrase the entries and the keywords you use.
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    Old 12-20-2010, 04:53 PM
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    Hi there Iron,

    I would agree with what has been said in the above posts.

    There has been a huge change in WoW since in the last two years. The most important ones are that instances and battlegrounds are now linked across to other servers so there should be no shortage of people to group up with, so long as you can find a tank and a healer.

    SWC is a quiet server, but not that quiet. I have toons at various stages from level 10 upwards (most in PCG guild). In the past year the server population has quietened down as lots took a break before Cata. But in the last month there has been explosion in the population. Whereas before there would be whole areas with no other people this is not now the case. Especially the new starting areas and the redesigned zones on the way to level 60. The only really quiet areas at the moment are the TBC and WOTLK zones. It was a bit of a shock when I came across from a high population server (Al'Akir), but you do get used to it. It is mostly a very friendly server too. I've often been helped out by Alliance characters when having difficulty killing mobs. And as it's an RP server you don't live with the fear of constantly being ganked trying to complete quests.

    The other thing to know is that most WoW players have been at it for some time and will have at least one character at 80-85. That means you will find a lot more people around in the new Cata zones and in Orgrimmar. I admit that all the other Horde cities are now completely dead. But thats because you have to go to Org for everything, so thats were people tend to hang out.

    I wouldn't worry too much about RP names for toons either, if you look at the names in our Character Registration sub -forum [URL="http://www.pcgamer.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=44"]here[/URL] you will get the idea. So long as you are sensible with names then you should be ok.

    PCG is a large guild. We now have over 500 characters in the main guild and getting on for 200 in the alt guild (PCG Swarm). Last night (early Monday morning) at 3:00am there were still 15 of us around. So there will always be people around to talk to and ask for help.

    Playing a frost mage is now completely different than it was. You've already found that you just can't aoe everything down as you used to. You will need to rethink strategy. My main sources of information these days are [URL="http://www.wowwiki.com/Portal:Main"]WoWwiki[/URL], [URL="http://wow.joystiq.com/"]WoW Insider[/URL] and [URL="http://wow.joystiq.com/"]WoWHead[/URL]. Although if you just google something like "WoW Mage tactics" you should get a load of articles to choose from.

    As an Eve and WoW player as well I get a lot out of both games. They are so completely different that one compliments the other. I love the politics, the market and the PvP of Eve but equally love the questing, instances and raids in WoW. Both have such a lot to offer that I have not got bored with either.

    I would say give it a go with PCG. Roll a Goblin character (they are the best race to start with atm) and join up.
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    Old 12-20-2010, 07:13 PM
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    Many thanks for your replies. Sorry about putting the thread in the wrong place, dunno how that happened.

    I looked at the existing guild names as suggested by Deadard and the first I saw was Batfink. Nice one!
    I named my mage Plugin, but in hindsight I guess that is a pretty major RP breaker and risky to use?

    Explain why your name is RP:
    My character is a Bat and he is a fink and … OK fair enough
    My character is a plugin… err yea a plugin is a medieval type of err… crap!

    I had a longer look at all the class spells and talents today at work (yes at work). Seems like they have stripped out all the interesting spells from the low levels. I’m mainly looking at Mage, but it seems a similar story on the other classes too. Low levels are massively simplified and the fun doesn’t seem to start until lv50. Or should I replace the word fun with complexity? Is that about the gist of things now?

    On the other hand I noticed professions now giving interesting rewards, like the healing spell for herbalists. I would still prefer to have my low level blizzard spell

    What really sucked about SWC was going to the Auction House (AH) and finding I couldn’t buy any bags. GRRRRR!!
    I guess this could be solved in a guild as a I could beg until a tailor made some, but I took that as an indicator that the economy is almost non existent. What if I wanted to sell my own stuff in the AH, do lowbies have any chance of making a living from ore/cloth/leather?

    The first time I quit wow was because of the changes to the Paly talent tree (pre WOTLK). I was mad because I had chosen to level up a Paly to create a specific build which I enjoyed immensely and then suddenly wasn’t possible anymore. I can only conclude that Blizzard is repeating this cycle deliberately to force people to switch classes and keep playing the subscription longer.

    I will try to sort out what class and name I want to use and then make an application. Thanks for your time and patience whilst I try to adjust my brain to the new WOW climate.

    Blizzard at lv52? WHYYYYYY…..
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    There aren't many bags on the AH because the vendors now sell proper bags.
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    Old 12-20-2010, 10:51 PM
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    If you stick around till after Christmas the guild is having a gathering event and a crafting event. The events are aimed at lower levels to get professions up and to basically zerg through a zone!
    It helps towards the guild acheives too!
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    Old 12-21-2010, 12:33 AM
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    There aren't many bags on the AH because the vendors now sell proper bags.
    Also I seem to be the only one posting netherweave bags at the moment so my bank alt may be driving the price up, I've stuck a lot of bags in the guild bank and will pony up more if folk need 'em.
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    Old 12-21-2010, 12:42 AM
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    I just came back after a year and a half, firstly i was amazed that my account had not been hacked, but also at how much had changed im not a fan of whats going on with ret paladins and im a bit lost atm with my 80 hunter. Its like starting for the first time again only this time i know all the lingo, very annoying but so far very good.
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    Old 12-21-2010, 07:42 AM
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    crazy give it a couple of weeks and you will get back on top of hunter, it was hell when they first changed it as we were still raiding and it just made everything feel wrong.
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