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    Old 07-13-2010, 09:54 PM
    Chewwie Chewwie is offline
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    Oh I see your point Oz. I know how to play my class and which spec works best in every fight. I'm prioritising what's most important for MY ROLE in that fight. Survival is best, by a mile for getting several bombs up fast (on 3 occasions last night I had 3 bombs to look after). If only ever had to hit one bomb, I'd go MM. In an ideal world, everyone would watch the bombs, but that's just not going to happen. SV is best for OUR RAID, trust me xD
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    Old 07-13-2010, 11:02 PM
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    So basicly your saying i should be blaming everybody else :P
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    Old 07-14-2010, 08:43 AM
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    I had a look at some of the guilds on wowmeters and out of the ones I looked at I noticed with regard to warlocks

    All affliction spec warlocks ran with a demo lock in the raid as well, and all affliction warlocks didn't touch any bombs.

    So there is what's best in ideal circumstances and then there is what's best for our raid and tactics.




    ps i was 91% to being ranked on saufang tooo!

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    Old 07-14-2010, 10:39 AM
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    ps i was 91% to being ranked on saufang tooo!
    Your a non-mage caster so you don't count. We need cata back to stop this abuse
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    Old 07-14-2010, 11:00 AM
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    Your a non-mage caster so you don't count. We need cata back to stop this abuse

    Sacrilege!


    btw dont stop posting your insights, its alot more interesting to read than just a link to a log
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    Old 07-14-2010, 11:16 AM
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    The important part tbh was to note just how much damage Shadow prison (the movement debuff on princes) did to the raid 10.8 % of all damage over the ENTIRE raid is a pretty significant ammount.
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    Old 07-14-2010, 06:02 PM
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    Hehe, yeah Oz, you're right. Although my point was, I hope, a little more subtle than that. With a couple of exceptions, if we fail we fail as a team. It's a 25 man raid for a reason - if we fail consistently, you can hardly blame one person's choice of dps spec. We should all review our performance, even you Equally, the pats on the back are appreciated - really!!

    Following on from what you said, I was shocked by the amount of Shadow Prison damage we were all taking, which, as you rightly say must be reduced. However hard it is to stay still when chasing balls and spreading for shock vortices, this can be reduced. Relatively speaking, the tanks can pretty much stay still, practically negating debuff damage. We need to find a balance. But, if the dps can improve by 5% we have them! I'm sure EVERYONE can pull that out now that we've had some good shakes at downing them. We were soooo close. I will be expecting at least a 50% dps increase from myself next time - I'll be hitting the boss, not babysitting everyone else's balls :P

    Anyway, good thread Oz, I'll stop arguing now

    Peace!

    PS. Watch some vids, they're entertaining and really helpful if you focus on what other players of your class are doing.
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    Old 07-14-2010, 07:06 PM
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    Chewwie likes baby sitting balls.


    Anyway something important to remember is we were 24 manning it as narcy felt ill. The 25th person would probably have made up the damage we were needed on the last attempt to kill them.
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    Old 07-14-2010, 07:20 PM
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    I think klog was online, or did he not feel like raiding that night?
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    Old 07-14-2010, 08:15 PM
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    I didn't want to get saved for 1 fight, as I wasn't online til 10
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