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    Old 06-17-2010, 10:44 PM
    Zael Zael is offline
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    But in our 10 man we only have one rogue, and say I spec combat to give everyone that buff, then we lose assassinations Master Poisoner buff which gives everyone a 3% to critical hit.

    Edit: I know what you mean though, having 2 PvE specs as a rogue is "good raiding" material. Since Assassination can be quite weak on some ICC fights where combat excels.

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    Old 06-17-2010, 10:53 PM
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    Heart of the crusader and totem of wrath also provide this buff
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    Old 06-17-2010, 10:55 PM
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    But what if we're missing a ret pally and an Ench shamen!? Etc Etc Etc...
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    Old 06-17-2010, 10:57 PM
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    Ideally, use something like the [URL="http://raidcomp.mmo-champion.com/"]MMO-Champion Raid comp utility[/URL], see what buffs you can bring, and spec accordingly per raid based on who is with you.
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    Old 06-17-2010, 10:58 PM
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    Can I ask why its a flat out no for subtlety spec's I msorta levelling a rogue in subtlety but I want to know why the sheer sucakge is that just for raids?
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    Old 06-17-2010, 11:07 PM
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    Sub dps is considerably behind combat and assasination. You might say it's sub par.
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    Old 06-17-2010, 11:12 PM
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    Klog thats fine if you're in a raiding guild who are clearing content 4 nights a week but I don't even have two 264 weapons yet for my main spec. If I were to spec combat just to bring a 4% raid buff to what? another three maybe four dps in 10 man i'd knock off about 4-5k of my own dps. You may be getting the drops to have two viable spec. But i'm not, when I do then sure.

    I dunno Yk, Blizz just seem to have trouble with the Sub spec so they're just leaving it untill a revamp in Cata we all assume. Theres some interesting levelling and pvp specs I could link for you but they won't be as good as the other two trees.
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    Old 06-17-2010, 11:15 PM
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    Obviously if it's going to nerf your DPS in a significant way there's no point. The point was sometimes you can end up with higher overall raid dps by bringing specific buffs to the raid, but this assumes the raid dps benefit is greater than the potential loss to personal dps. Like Buffbot Warlocks.
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    Old 06-17-2010, 11:20 PM
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    Yep, once I get a decent combat build together i'll abandon my ever failing quest for pvp dominance and become pro raider.
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    Old 06-18-2010, 03:24 PM
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    Well, need a combat spec, copy mines maybe? But whats wrong with a 4% buff? i mean sometimes sid is tanking and not there, so you needs us combat rogues sometimes.



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