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    Old 02-15-2011, 06:06 PM
    Klogaroth Klogaroth is offline
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    I've done the berserking and bloodlust maths. You have all ticks of everything at 11.15% haste on gear. That's why sims were pushing you towards it.

    With just berserking you would need 44.48% on gear. This is very much unobtainable.

    The berserking 3 tick haste required would be 25.21% from gear. Again somewhat out of reach.

    A fairly big breakpoint that's maybe in reach for you is the 3rd tick of combustion without any other haste cooldown. This is at 15.58% haste FROM GEAR. This does not include netherwind presence. It is obtained at 1996 haste rating from your gear.

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    Old 02-15-2011, 07:33 PM
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    Quick note regarding crit.

    Any theoretical crit breakpoint is pretty much out of reach.
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    Old 02-15-2011, 09:04 PM
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    I am undead now, so any calculations made based on Berserking are irrelevant.
    I picked up Witching Hourglass heroic today and noticed a good dps increase when swapping it for normal gale of shadows, the haste proc is lovely, and the SP I get from it is actually more than I got from a fully stacked normal GoS
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    Old 02-15-2011, 09:23 PM
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    Yeah witching hourglass is the best 346 trinket short of the JC one
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    The JC one is, according to rawr, 100% BiS at the moment, which I simply cannot understand. Think I need to tweak my settings on rawr, as it is assigning weird value to trinkets - it is putting the VP trink up there with 372 Bell of Enraging resonance
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    According to my rawr setup (no heroic raids, BIS gear).
    The Darkmoon Card: Volcano is BIS (2 cards to go and the wait for the DMF ), with the JC BOP second (which I can't get as my mage is not a JC). The VP Soul Casket is next.

    If I include heroic gear :
    The Darkmoon Card: Volcano is still BIS, with the JC second.

    Now I'm really glad I've got 6/8 of the cards for Volcano. Was actually umming and ahhing about whether it would be replaced once heroics came around (though that will be a while yet). But to see it still as BIS really is nice.
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    Old 02-17-2011, 07:07 AM
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    Zalid treat all advice on trinkets given by rawr with extreme caution. It is VERY flaky at the moment, and places a ridiculously high value on trinkets with clicky use effects.

    I would steer clear of the VP trink - DMC Volcano + Bell of Enraging Resonance is a better combo
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    Old 02-17-2011, 09:34 AM
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    I reforged out of Crit to Haste after running Rawr. DPS is now 2K better then before the patch. In fact I was top DPS on the Maloriak kill beating the 2 hunters (at last).

    Darkmoon Card: Volcano is BiS trinket according to Elitest Jerks even considering Heroic gear. That is good enough for me.

    [url]http://elitistjerks.com/f75/t110326-cataclysm_fire_mage_compendium/[/url]
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    The VP trinket [URL="http://www.wowhead.com/item=58183"]Soul Casket[/URL] is not actually high on my to get list. I plan on getting the tier 11 [URL="http://www.wowhead.com/item=60244"]Firelord's Robes[/URL] and [URL="http://www.wowhead.com/item=60245"]Firelord's Leggings[/URL] first, and then possibly the [URL="http://www.wowhead.com/item=58188"]Band of Secret Names[/URL] ring.
    The [URL="http://www.wowhead.com/item=62047"]Darkmoon Card: Volcano[/URL] (once I get the last 2 cards and DMF comes around) and the [URL="http://www.wowhead.com/item=62465"]Stump of Time[/URL] should keep me going.
    Also, [URL="http://www.wowhead.com/item=59514"]Heart of Ignacious[/URL] was something I had considered. But stacking something which takes about 10seconds from all accounts and then using it to get a haste buff sounds really unwieldy to me. The [URL="http://www.wowhead.com/item=59326"]Bell of Enraging Resonance[/URL] is a much better trinket in my opinion.

    Also, my dps now is pushing the top of our raiding group. Which is really nice to see
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    Old 02-18-2011, 02:20 PM
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    The bell is v good - almost certainly BiS for fire combined with DMC: V pre heroic modes.

    I am fairly close to Stump of Time, and will probably replace Theralion's mirror with it when I get it, meaning I'll be running with a Vibrant Alchemist's Stone + Stump of Time.

    When I get Bell.... I have no idea which trinket I will replace, will need to do some thinking as Rawr is all over the shop with trinkets and probably not to be trusted.
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