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    Old 10-15-2012, 09:54 PM
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    Unhappy Wii U Toy computer?

    I don't get why PC Gamer went and called the Wii U a toy computer I mean what we are looking at is a system that has what is probably one of the most advanced controller ever made. Was PC Gamer throwing insults of just joking around?
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    I don't get why PC Gamer went and called the Wii U a toy computer I mean what we are looking at is a system that has what is probably one of the most advanced controller ever made. Was PC Gamer throwing insults of just joking around?
    the WiiU has an advanced controller? its funny because all those features and more can be achieved on the PS3 when you connect up to a Vita, but then you could do similar with the original PSP years back it just lacked touch screen. the WiiU is old tech and just going for a novelty like they did with the Wii and hoping it will sell.
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    Old 10-15-2012, 10:09 PM
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    the WiiU has an advanced controller? its funny because all those features and more can be achieved on the PS3 when you connect up to a Vita, but then you could do similar with the original PSP years back it just lacked touch screen. the WiiU is old tech and just going for a novelty like they did with the Wii and hoping it will sell.
    Actually Vita can't do everything Wii U can latency is big issue and when you look at Rayman Legends you have four people with standard controllers on the TV and a 5th player on the gamepad with a sychronized image that he/she can touch and interact with all at 1080p 60fps. If PS3 tried to do all that it probably would have spouted smoke rather quickly and Wii U does not require you to buy a 250-300 dollar handheld to use Murphy because the system comes with everything you need for full multiplayer and remember that only a select few games support cross play on Vita and there is no way Rayman Legends could be done in 1080p on PS3 unless the PS3 and the Vita were each running their own copy of the game at the same time
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    if you honestly believe what you just wrote when the majority of developers have wrote off the WiiU as being less powerful than the 360 and PS3 that is up to you, but using a LCD screen as an input is nothing new, wacom has had high precision LCD displays to use as graphics tablets for at least 5 years, there are wireless touch screen fan controllers and such for PC that are dirt cheap, so really the WiiU controller is no more advanced than about a £40 fan controller and way less advanced than graphics tablets out 5 or more years ago.

    as for lag on controllers the majority of controllers work on bluetooth (going to guess the WiiU is no different) the PSP and Vita both connect to the console through wifi that is actually higher bandwidth so if anything there should be less lag on the controller. but then I'm willing to bet you haven't ever tried any of this and just like to Nintendo are the best thing going despite Nintendo them self stating they do not make consoles to compete with the PS3, 360 and PC, but instead aim for another market where they don't need to be aiming to push the limits of tech, they supposedly push for new ideas but this one isn't particularly new.
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    Old 10-15-2012, 11:48 PM
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    if you honestly believe what you just wrote when the majority of developers have wrote off the WiiU as being less powerful than the 360 and PS3 that is up to you, but using a LCD screen as an input is nothing new, wacom has had high precision LCD displays to use as graphics tablets for at least 5 years, there are wireless touch screen fan controllers and such for PC that are dirt cheap, so really the WiiU controller is no more advanced than about a £40 fan controller and way less advanced than graphics tablets out 5 or more years ago.

    as for lag on controllers the majority of controllers work on bluetooth (going to guess the WiiU is no different) the PSP and Vita both connect to the console through wifi that is actually higher bandwidth so if anything there should be less lag on the controller. but then I'm willing to bet you haven't ever tried any of this and just like to Nintendo are the best thing going despite Nintendo them self stating they do not make consoles to compete with the PS3, 360 and PC, but instead aim for another market where they don't need to be aiming to push the limits of tech, they supposedly push for new ideas but this one isn't particularly new.
    Actually many developers have stated Wii U is MORE powerful than PS3/360 Gearbox, 5th Cell, Crytek, many indie devs have praised the Wii U as well even Epic has given good words to Wii U you must have been hearing from those anonymous developers
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    Actually many developers have stated Wii U is MORE powerful than PS3/360 Gearbox, 5th Cell, Crytek, many indie devs have praised the Wii U as well even Epic has given good words to Wii U you must have been hearing from those anonymous developers
    The Graphics chip is an improvement, but the CPU certainly isn't.
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    Old 10-16-2012, 12:28 AM
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    The Graphics chip is an improvement, but the CPU certainly isn't.
    The Wii U CPU is much more modern and recent than the PS3 and 360 chips even if its a little slower it can still do a lot more. The CPU from what I have heard is an Intel Power 7 PC type processor and also the Wii U has a GPGPU which can handle tasks normally reserved for the CPU and in consoles the GPU is generally more important
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    Well the Wii U CPU is much more modern and recent than the PS3 and 360 chips even if its a little slower it can still do a lot more the CPU from what I have heard is an Intel Power 7 PC type processor and also the Wii U has a GPGPU which can handle tasks normally reserved for the CPU
    Several developers have come out and admitted that they'll struggle with the limited CPU. Remember Dead rising on the Wii? It'll be like that all over again.
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    Old 10-16-2012, 01:27 AM
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    Several developers have come out and admitted that they'll struggle with the limited CPU. Remember Dead rising on the Wii? It'll be like that all over again.
    You didn't read my part bout the GPGPU
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    what the hell is a intel power 7? do you mean a power PC chip? as those are made by IBM and the one in the PS3 is a long long way from a standard power PC chip, hell even the 360 chip is boosted by the tech used to create the Cell.

    as for the GPU it's all good and well having a beefy GPU if you don't have the CPU to calculate all the movements to create the positioning data to be sent to the GPU so it can be rendered on the screen, this is why most newer games are quite CPU intensive on top of being GPU intensive it's all about balance, I could put a GTX680 on a PC with a old dual core, the PC would run but it would still run like crap in games compared to a PC with a CPU that can handle it.

    either way most of the big developers have came out and said it is less powerful including the likes of EA and Activision, stating it makes it harder to make games and that it still can't have cross platform games with the PS3 and 360, so while it is close behind at the moment next year the new PS and Xbox are meant to be announced so it seems its just another case of one step forward and two steps back.

    Nintendo their self have stated numerous times they are not aiming for the tripple A market and they are not aiming for the hard core market who demand power, they are aiming to market accessibility, they have even said multiple times they are not in a competition with any other format.
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