[QUOTE=Zael;20872.........Most guilds have the benefit of recruiting 6 or 7 healers and then saying ok, no more healers. .[/QUOTE]
^^ This. Our situation is a strange one, we don't recruit specific classes or roles that we're short on, and we try and provide a raiding structure that almost anyone can get involved in regardless of their experience.
The trouble comes, as always, when we have more suitable players than raid spots (which is almost always).
This is heightened when looking at those raid spots in the more progression focused raids.
I'll just say that when we moved to the two 25-man raid team structure, it was to give the guild a platform to work on the later Icecrown bosses. At the time we were struggling to get anywhere, and that was partly because we were rotating in so many players each week (disrupting our rhythm and having to re-learn fights each week) , and we also felt the need to give anyone who signed a raid spot, or at least rotate them in as soon as we could, which ineveitably leads to some of the better players sitting out for some less good.
The good news is that we have massively incresed our progression since moving to the separate raid teams, and making performance the only real criteria for getting into Donkey. The bad news is that if you're the 4th best tank in the guild, you wont be getting in if the other 3 tanks show up. (Similarly if you're the 3 best rogue and the 2 other rogues show etc.)
Anyway, I've wandered a bit off-topic. so to adress wymrys original post.
Best thing to do to get into donkey is to keep signing up, make sure you have a good offspec (and you know how to use it), if you're not chosen to go striaght away, stick around! We often have disconnects or emergencies and need to fill a raid spot.
As to the kingslayer run, we're running a double lock out this coming weekend (sunday and monday) to give us time to get to Arthas and kill him a second time on 25-man. I'd like to do this a few more times before the expansion, but many of our players would prefer to spend time working on heroic 25-man modes, so we're trying to please everyone as best we can.
I know it doesnt relate to you as you cant raid tuesdays, but i'd love to get the Tuesday night raid team up to see arthas, but if last nights performance is anythig to go by, we're still a long way off