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    Old 01-20-2012, 07:12 PM
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    someone should mention about the speed of your phone line having nothing to do with ping, as it is surprising how many people believe you need a massive internet connection to be competitive online, when you can get people with 100meg lines having worse pings than people on lines at under a meg, since the routing done by the ISP is what determines your ping.
    I'm adding a list of needed stuff in the third post :P
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    I'm bumping this. It's far from finished.
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    Bumping this. It needs to get stickied.
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    Old 04-05-2012, 03:28 PM
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    I wish people would contribute more to this. I've added one which I found out on my own.
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    Old 04-05-2012, 10:13 PM
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    What is the point of making it a sticky if everyone who comes to the forums is already into PC gaming or about to be? There is no need to convince them of anything if they are already interested. Just a question.

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    What is the point of making it a sticky if everyone who comes to the forums is already into PC gaming or about to be? There is no need to convince them of anything if they are already interested. Just a question.
    I recently built a gaming PC and it was guides and threads like this that got me moving in the right direction. I think it's a great set of pointers for beginners. There's obviously other stuff that could be added, though it would certainly have to be someone more qualified than me to explain them.

    I say sticky it!
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    I recently built a gaming PC and it was guides and threads like this that got me moving in the right direction. I think it's a great set of pointers for beginners. There's obviously other stuff that could be added, though it would certainly have to be someone more qualified than me to explain them.

    I say sticky it!
    Ok, well I may as well add to the thread. One of the biggest myths I hear is that you have to upgrade every 6 months. People seem think that after 6 months your parts self-destruct and are no good. The GTX 580 came out 18 months ago and still maxs out every game at 60fps with the exception of Metro and Crysis.
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    Ok, well I may as well add to the thread. One of the biggest myths I hear is that you have to upgrade every 6 months. People seem think that after 6 months your parts self-destruct and are no good. The GTX 580 came out 18 months ago and still maxs out every game at 60fps with the exception of Metro and Crysis.
    my 470 still plays everything I chuck at it and it's even older, the fact is this thread does work as it dismisses a lot of the things supposed "experts" would tell you to sell you a more expensive item when a cheaper one will most likely do the same job and in some cases better. the sad fact is the industry likes to push "selling numbers" that have no real relevance to the product (some of these more so as there is no set way to actually measure them for example contrast ratios on monitors) so if you are getting into gaming PC's it is a total mine field and if you jump in feet first you will lose a leg.
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    my 470 still plays everything I chuck at it and it's even older, the fact is this thread does work as it dismisses a lot of the things supposed "experts" would tell you to sell you a more expensive item when a cheaper one will most likely do the same job and in some cases better.
    I can beat that. My 9800GT on my old pc runs anything, albeit at reduced settings, but there is often no discernible visual difference. A £5-600 pc will give most games a decent showing.
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    The CPU must be capable of getting decent frames on its own, or else it will bottleneck your graphics card.
    I don't understand this. Why would you bother buying a graphics card if your processor could play the games at a decent frame rate? If I take my GPU out I can barely run Windows Aero (I have an AMD FX 4100. Yes, a horrible card but I didn't fancy buying a new mobo after my old CPU asploded), so by that logic my processor is bottlenecking my GPU (GTX 570).

    I'm a n00b, I'll be the first to admit, but this really doesn't make sense to me. Bottlenecking must be absolutely inevitable and GPU's must make about as much difference as a sound card.
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