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    Old 06-12-2013, 10:01 PM
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    Cool Can you explain these cards? (first gaming PC build)

    Hey everyone. Lifetime console gamer, and even Apple user and ex-employee, about to build my first PC for gaming. I have roughly 1500$ for amazon, and more if I need it. (been saving)

    As far as building it, I am sure I can figure it out once I buy all the parts. For the most part I have decided on some version of an i5 chip, I hear i7 is mostly for movie making, and I have an i7 in my Macbook Pro if I ever decide to make videos. THIS IS 100% GAMING.

    My MAIN question here, is after a bit of research, for the cost, the 670 Nvidia card seemed to be the one to go with, tho I hear it's a bit loud at times. I don't COMPLETELY understand overclocking (superclocked, 3470v3570k, etc) .... (just like wearing a size 30 waist when you are a 34 or a 32? lol...?) However, via amazon, a much hgher ranked card the 770, seems to be only a few bucks more. It also shows fans, are there not great fans inside that closed case on the 670?

    PLEASE help me understand all the numbers and info a video card has in its name, and which card to get.

    GTX 770 listed here:
    [url]http://www.amazon.com/MSI-DisplayPort-N770-TF-2GD5/dp/B00CZ58WUI/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1371073446&sr =1-2&keywords=gtx+770[/url]

    GTX 670 listed here:
    [url]http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Dual-Link-DisplayPort-Graphics-02G-P4-2678-KR/dp/B0083Y6MV6/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1371073856&sr =1-1&keywords=gtx+670[/url]

    ALSO, if you feel like it, let me know your personal experience and recommendations on other parts to buy, from 8v16gb of RAM, to the tower itself.

    thanks so much.

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    Old 06-12-2013, 10:53 PM
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    Yes, EVGA cards are all ref which means they only have that one fan. Just go for the 770 if you can afford it.

    Whats your budget? 8GB of ram is more than enough for gaming.
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    Old 06-12-2013, 11:09 PM
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    I figure with only 20$ difference how can't I get the 770!

    My budget....I have 1600 in amazon giftcards and more in special savings for this if I need it

    I feel I can make an epic/respectable gaming pc for the 1200+ range

    And buy a projector on top of that.
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    Old 06-12-2013, 11:20 PM
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    ALSO if you look at the links provided that 770 is not a normal 770. I'd love to know the exact differences and what EVGA really means
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    Old 06-13-2013, 02:49 AM
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    ALSO if you look at the links provided that 770 is not a normal 770. I'd love to know the exact differences and what EVGA really means
    Better cooling on the first. EVGA is a brand.
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    Old 06-13-2013, 07:15 PM
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    The MSI GTX 770 card has a better cooling with the twin fan design.

    The EVGA GTX 670 FTW is a reference (basic) design based on the GTX 680 model rather then the GTX 670 one, and overclocked to GTX 680 speeds accordingly.

    The GTX 770 came out a few weeks ago & is better overall. It is basically a heavily overclocked GTX 680, so that's pretty good for the price difference.
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    Old 06-13-2013, 10:17 PM
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    After multiple tips from people and a few personal choices, like the case which is 170$, this comes to

    $1,574

    I am still not sure if I get this superclocked version of the GTX 770 or the 399 version on amazon for 50$ less.

    The motherboard and fan were recommended to me.

    I just hope all these parts fit in the case and work together! I believe they do from my research.


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    Looks good, [SIZE="5"]BUT[/SIZE], you haven't listed a power supply or a DVD/RW, the former being critical to powering the system.

    As to which GTX 770 card, if your not going to overclock yourself then get the EVGA SC, otherwise the MSI card will be easy enough to OC yourself & save some money.

    Optionally it may be worthwhile going with RAM modules with a lower heatsink (the spiky bit on top), incase you run into the event of them blocking the CPU cooler.
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    Quote:
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    Looks good, [SIZE="5"]BUT[/SIZE], you haven't listed a power supply or a DVD/RW, the former being critical to powering the system.

    As to which GTX 770 card, if your not going to overclock yourself then get the EVGA SC, otherwise the MSI card will be easy enough to OC yourself & save some money.

    Optionally it may be worthwhile going with RAM modules with a lower heatsink (the spiky bit on top), incase you run into the event of them blocking the CPU cooler.
    Thanks for the input! I actually already ordered this, hope you approve


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    Looks good but not crazy about the PSU. Its not a bad one by any means but for gaming and overclocking and such, I prefer a little beefier one. I wouldnt worry about it if youve already ordered it though. Like I said, its not a bad one, just not a really good one but it wont blow up or anything.
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