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    Old 06-03-2013, 03:09 AM
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    Hey guys, I've been looking at an upgrade for a while now, and thought I'd narrowed it down to a 3570k, a PC HD7870 myst edition and an ASRock Z77 extreme4, but the Haswell release, and the new mobos/coolers that come with it, have got me a little uneasy.

    Seeing as I'm pretty much building an entirely new rig (new CPI, GPU, RAM, mobo and PSU), I'm not sure if I should go for the new, rather untested, Haswell (4670K) or stick with the tried-and-true 3570k. What do you guys think?

    And also, what are your thoughts on the HD7950 boost vs the HD7870 myst?
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    Old 06-03-2013, 03:20 AM
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    What would be the problem with going with Haswell? I don't really understand.

    Also, 7950 performs better but is obviously more expensive.
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    Old 06-03-2013, 03:31 AM
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    My only problem with Haswell is whether or not the price increase (spread throughout the new cpu, mobo and cooling) justifies the performance?

    So my thought is to keep the 3570k and get a 7950 rather than the 7870, as the performance increase in the GPU is greater than what I'll see in the CPU. What would you do?
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    Haswell is better, no two ways about it. Its around 10% faster clock for clock than Ivy Bridge. It does look like less of an overclocker but they should still overclock pretty good. The only way Id see buying a 3570K over a 4670K would be if you could get the 3570K at around $200. That would be $50 less than the 4670K and with the Ivy being a better overclocker, it could turn out to be the better chip. But for close to the same money, get the latest architecture and the fastest chip and that would be Haswell.
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    My only problem with Haswell is whether or not the price increase (spread throughout the new cpu, mobo and cooling) justifies the performance?

    So my thought is to keep the 3570k and get a 7950 rather than the 7870, as the performance increase in the GPU is greater than what I'll see in the CPU. What would you do?
    Cooling is the same, mobo is a bit more, and the CPU is only marginally more. However, you would be spending a bit more with 1155 anyways, because the Extreme4 is not a very good mobo. If you wait a week, the Z87 mobo should drop in price as the different suppliers have more supplies.

    Personally, I don't see any reason to go for 1155, considering that there is a performance increase that does help.
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    Ok thanks, I'll wait a week or two and see which prices fall, bearing in mind I'm from Australia so I may have to wait a while haha.
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    as for the myst edition...the cheapest one is 209.99 w/4 games...
    [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131487&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=[/url]

    The 7950 w/ boost is low price is roughly $269 and might add 5-10 frames for demanding games. Not really worth it if you ask me.
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    Ok thanks, I'll wait a week or two and see which prices fall, bearing in mind I'm from Australia so I may have to wait a while haha.
    Oh, it does seem like motherboards are significantly more in Australia.
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    If you do end up going for Ivy for whatever reason, don't get the Extreme4 because it a nasty board.
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