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    Old 04-17-2012, 10:54 AM
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    Well no, it can be dangerous, look at this already:

    [url]http://uk.news.yahoo.com/anders-behr...dismissed.html[/url]

    With a trial there is always a chance he can get off with a technicality because of stupid human rights and loopholes in the law. It gives people contemplating does such heinous crimes hope they may actually be able to get away with it.
    Well no, that's not what that story pertains to at all. In fact, they deserve credit for removing a lay-judge who had a clear bias (and would have had to attest to having no bias to get the position in the first place).

    If we start deciding who gets the right to a fair trial it is a very slippery slope indeed, who gets to decide and on what. Powers like that are very rarely used as intended and in fact often grow exponentially to cover more and more.

    If he gets off on a technicality (which i'll be amazed at) then it will no doubt lead to sweeping reforems in their legal system.

    To deny someone the right to a free and fair trial because you think they're guilty is wrong (irrespective of whether they are guilty or not).
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    But isn't the point of a trial to establish guilt? There is no doubt of guilt in this case.
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    Old 04-17-2012, 11:46 AM
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    no, the trial is to establish guilt, level of responsibility, damage casued, any reparations that can be made and the sentancing/treatment of the perpetrator.

    If you allow the 'he's clearly guilty' meme to even exist in the legal system, no matter how just, then you take the risk that the entire system can be subverted.

    I get that you're worried about a miscarriage of justice, but to deny a trial would be a greater miscarriage by far.

    Just look at guantanamo.
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    Old 04-17-2012, 05:54 PM
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    would think he has the rights of the Geneva Convention , and was declaring his War with his document.

    He was simply doing what United States does when it is threatened, blow shit up.
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    I personally don't want him dead unless he chooses to be- I personally feel people should be given a choice between a prison sentence (probably 300 years in this case) or death, upon which their body would be returned to whoever wanted it and if no one wanted to science.

    One thing I would like implemented is the coliseum however. Volunteers would be able to join up and fight for glory and prizes with it being televised and giving live performances. Both innocents and criminals would be able to enter but the medical care given to criminals in the afterfight would be far weaker then the innocents.
    Also one should throw in a lion every now and again.
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    I personally don't want him dead unless he chooses to be- I personally feel people should be given a choice between a prison sentence (probably 300 years in this case) or death, upon which their body would be returned to whoever wanted it and if no one wanted to science.

    One thing I would like implemented is the coliseum however. Volunteers would be able to join up and fight for glory and prizes with it being televised and giving live performances. Both innocents and criminals would be able to enter but the medical care given to criminals in the afterfight would be far weaker then the innocents.
    Also one should through in a lion every now and again.
    My immediate response to this is that innocent poor people would risk their lives for the entertainment purposes of the rich.
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    My immediate response to this is that innocent poor people would risk their lives for the entertainment purposes of the rich.
    Pretty much, though I reckon that there would be a large working class support of this, I'm thinking like there is for football or soaps, and city's would have a team of skilled fighters supported by a very advanced surgery team- though really it needs medicine to advance more to not be slightly evil
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    One thing I would like implemented is the coliseum however. Volunteers would be able to join up and fight for glory and prizes with it being televised and giving live performances. Both innocents and criminals would be able to enter but the medical care given to criminals in the afterfight would be far weaker then the innocents.
    Also one should throw in a lion every now and again
    I thoroughly endorse this product or event.
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    Old 04-19-2012, 08:35 AM
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    I shouldn't bother, Hunger Games was a really really shit film.
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    I agree, The Condemned was much better than The Hunger Games.
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