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    Old 03-01-2012, 09:15 AM
    DuddBudda DuddBudda is offline
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    so I'm disassembling my phantom in preparation for putting things in it, and I notice that most of the pre-applied screws are on a level of tighness no human can manage

    now I'm not the strongest or most confidently dextrous chap in the world, so half an hour ago I contacted a polish friend, a 6'6" hulk of a man who used to make roads and now makes and repairs computers

    and he can't get anywhere with the screws holding the fans and dust covers in case either



    any tips?







    far less urgent, the pop-on-pop-off things that hold the front and top panels onto the case are the best I've ever seen

    except one of the top panel poppers, which is unreachable from below and will not budge when the panel is lifted as intended - it's on the front corner, so I'm loathe to break it off, but should I?
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    Old 03-01-2012, 09:32 AM
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    If you have got any of the screws out on a fan have a look if they have a blue or red tint on the thread as a lot of firms are using glue stuff to keep the screws in, was a pain in the ass when I changed the cooler on my 470 about 14 screws all glued I ended up having to drill one of them.
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    Old 03-01-2012, 09:40 AM
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    that sounds all too possible, I'll see if Cam agrees

    oh, and while I was typing Cam just wrenched the top panel off - shattering the popper-thing as it came out butt hat is one less thing to worry about



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    Cam says no, they aren't glued, just ridiculously tight

    I'm just gonna get on with the rest of the build and sort it later, cheers though
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    Old 03-01-2012, 11:06 AM
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    sorry for the slow reply I had actually been posting from my phone, there is also the chance if it isn't glue that what ever tool they have used for the self tappers has went too fast and melted in place, there are any number of stupid reasons it could of happened, but you can't really over tighten into plastic without trashing the hole as the thread you make in the hole is really weak.

    if the screws have a decent head and you have a tool that will let you use a screw driver bit as a wrench shocking them (a short quick knock) could break the bond if they are melted in place or such, but you obviously have to be sure of the screw head holding up.
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    Old 03-01-2012, 11:11 AM
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    apply some heat. Be careful though to not burn anything.

    If you strip them, you will need to drill them out.

    another is leverage. use a socket type tool that is "L" shaped, and apply pressure on the screw, while pulling on the furthest end of the handle. add a shaft to the handle if you need more leverage. the longer the handle, the more torque you can apply.

    Good luck !

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    Old 03-01-2012, 01:43 PM
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    I didn't have any problems taking the fans out of my phantom. The hardest part were the screws that kept the top of the case on (not the plastic top, but the metal underneath). It took me forever to get those screws out. It actually stripped two of my screwdrivers, and then I borrowed a much better quality screwdriver from a neighbor and I was finally able to get them out.
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    Old 03-01-2012, 03:14 PM
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    well I'm glad I couldn't get the dust cover on the side 230mm fan off, because putting the fan in there would have conflicted with my CPU heatsink, typing this as AMD drivers install on my new Dual 6950 rig in a Phantom

    only cut myself five fucking times and stripped two flathead screw drivers building this, but whatevs

    oh and the plate that locks the CPU heat sink in place had a couple of bumps on the top that went about 2mm over the mosfets (or whatever) - I thought it was game over for the build today, but then I just went to the hardware store over the troad and asked them to lop the bumps off with a bolt cutter - they wanted to sell me £30 of cutter to do it, but when the assistant wandered off a friendly carpenter chap who'd overheard grabbed the bolt cutters off the rack and sorted it out in a second, legend, saved my day
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    Old 03-01-2012, 03:23 PM
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    dudd what happened to your standard PC tool kit, a screw driver, a drill, a saw, a hammer and a fucking huge hammer for those really annoying problems.
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    Old 03-01-2012, 03:32 PM
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    I put version 1.0 of this rig together with one screwdriver and one small cut right at the end of the build

    I don't know how I did so much worse moving to V2.0 but I did

    though I only spend half an hour stripping down V1.0 and an hour assembling V2.0 (discounting the hour I spent punching myself in the facepalm because the heatsink wouldn't go on) which is about two hours less than I spent on V1.0, so that was a fair improvement
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    Old 03-01-2012, 03:40 PM
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    yeah you have to be careful with PC cases they bite, my worst injury was from a very uncooperative blank in where the DVD drive goes, would it hell come out so I pushed harder and harder until eventually it flew out and I took finger down and round the sheet metal inside the case I still have the scar in my finger were the flap of skin was hanging off, but now that's why I have a hammer, they don't come out I persuade them to cooperate.
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