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    Old 10-05-2011, 05:31 AM
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    So to answer all the numerous "What kind of PC can i get for X amount of CAD/USD/GBP" I've decided to create a thread where there will be builds from 3 different price points in 3 different main currencies.

    [SIZE="5"]Canadian Builds:[/SIZE]

    Use [URL="http://www.shopbot.ca/"]Shopbot[/URL] for finding lower prices for price matching when you go to checkout on NCIX (located at bottom of cart page).

    [URL="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/zxgr"]Entry level ($500) build[/URL]

    [URL="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/zA42"]Mid-Range Build ($750):[/URL]

    [URL="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/zAiM"]High End ($1200)[/URL]

    [SIZE="5"]UK Builds:[/SIZE]

    [URL="http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/zWl1"]Entry Level (£400)[/URL]

    [URL="http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/zWuE"]Mid-Range (£650) [/URL]

    [URL="http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/zWFz"]High End (£1000)[/URL]


    [SIZE="5"]USA Builds:[/SIZE](submitted by Tr4656)

    [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Bbai"]Entry Level ($500)[/URL]

    [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Bbca"]Mid Range ($750)[/URL]

    [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Csou"]High-end ($1200)[/URL]
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    Old 10-05-2011, 05:36 AM
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    Well, consider this thread hijacked. Below is why to self-build:


    This forum has grown massively recently, most every day there is a new thread asking for advice on their new pc, (and luckily we have lots very active members all of whom are very nice ) most every build differs in context, so it would be foolish to create a thread about what to buy for your money, but there a question that is always asked, or the option that is always given to the user is this: self-building, as it far preferable to custom built websites and pre-buit comps.

    This made me think a thread like this would be most useful : this is going to discuss self-buiding and why you should do it yourself (including anecdotes), and should hopefully save us some virtual breath and stop writing the same thing over and over!

    Contary to the belief most of the public hold, putting a computer together does not require a degree in computer science, infact is it very easy to do(for belguims sake, I’m fourteen and have built my first truly “personal” PC). While the cynical among you may say “that’s easy for him to say,having done it before” but it really isn’t hard; many comparisons have been made (on this forum at least) to building computers and putting together lego. This is entirely fair, all the components of a computer are desinged to fit (admittedly not as inter-changably as Lego, though if anyone does have a pic of RAM is a PCI slot, do please share!)

    The components you order will all come with instruction manuals, so if the vast array of knowledge avaliable on these forums (ask a question and we will answer!) and tutorials on the internet ([URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ANlX4xfxf0"]part 1[/URL],[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTm5khBdQ7o&feature=related"] and 2[/URL]) (on building itself and individual component installation), which are very good for picking up techniques are not enough, then you do have this failsafe. But believe me it is easy to learn, especially if you’re willing to put some time and effort into learning what to do; I spent 4 hours looking up things, just to be safe, though in hindsight, that may have been over-kill (but beter safe than sorry).

    Most of the time custom built pc companies and especially pre-built comps: alienware and mac paticulaly), even the good ones, will charge a ridiculous premium charge for the relatively simple job that of assemlbing your machine which will only take them two hours, this ridiculous value range sfrom about £100/$150 (Pc specialist) to £500/$700 (alienware).

    Yet all this money can be saved (and spent on that little bit more power!) if you decide to build it for yourself

    On top of the main differnce of a heavier wallet and ease there are a few other things that make building you own Pc worth it:

    -It feels absolutely brilliant when the POST (power.on.self.test) beep goes off (or the phase lights come on) and you know that you did it all correctly, and have built your own,fully functioning desktop

    -Bragging rights to all your friends you built own PC

    -In the circumstance that anything goes wrong, you have complete access to your computer, no warranty preventing your from tampering to see what’s wrong, and nothing to stop you taking and adding different upgrades as you please

    -The base knowledge will not change over time, so you will learn a skill you can use for the rest of your life, and you will be quite capable of halping out freinds with their PC dilemas too

    -Your PC won't be filled with the useless programs that come pre-installed

    -Retail components all come with a warranty, meaning no paying for insurance

    -You will be allowed more freedom to tweak your PC, many companies lock options in the BIOS, to prevent things like overclocking

    -Pre-built PC's often skimp on important parts, such as power supplies, for example dell have been known to supply people with 300W power supplies! This means no future upgrades


    !WARNING! DO NOT BUY: ALIENWARE OR ACER!WARNING!

    That about covers it, and I hope I've explained why building your own pc is the way to go, (without boring you to death) if anyone has any questions or something to add, please do and I’ll add it to the original post or answer (if someone doesn't beat me to it)

    These tutorials are also reccomended:
    Computer Building Tutorial - [url]http://bit.ly/rkNw4t[/url]
    Guide to the PC System - [url]http://lifehac.kr/nVK1UQ[/url]
    Guide to PC Graphics Settings - [url]http://bit.ly/50kACP[/url]



    So far,content added thanks to:
    -Duddbudda
    -Kill4Pie
    -Steelie
    -FatCobra
    -M3RV
    -XAuTomaT1CX
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    Old 10-05-2011, 05:54 AM
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    No video card for mid-range build?
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    Old 10-05-2011, 06:05 AM
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    No video card for mid-range build?
    Or entry level it seems
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    Or entry level it seems
    The entry level one uses an AMD APU and has an integrated Radeon HD. The mid-level one is sadly missing a graphics card.
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    Old 10-05-2011, 08:15 PM
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    Ok, here are instructions. All the times I've linked "see here" are labelled diagrams to help you see which part is which and what's important on them. I've used diagrams of the exact parts I've linked above. The large amount of text looks intimidating in hindsight, but really, it's nothing too complex.

    All this is in both of the video guides in my original post if you want to follow along.

    1a) Take the case out of it's box and open the left side panel (facing the front of the case).

    1b) [Optionally] Attach the antistatic wristband to your wrist and put the crocodile clip onto the case.

    2) Take the motherboard ([url=http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1171/motherboards.png]see here[/url]) out of it's box and place it on a safe surface (such as the box it was contained in). Do not use the grey/black anti-static bag the board came in since it's conductive.

    3) Lift the retention lever on the CPU socket and also the metal casing around the sides of it. If the pins are not showing there is likely a cover on the socket that you need to remove. It'll just look like a fake CPU. Don't touch the CPU socket with your hands (or anything apart from a CPU).

    4) Place the CPU ([url=http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6189/cpuwu.jpg]see here[/url]) into the CPU socket making sure to match up the pins on the socket to the bottom of the CPU. There may be a cover on the bottom of the CPU so make sure the metal contacts on the bottom are revealed before placing. Also, be sure not to touch the underside of the CPU (hold it from the sides). This entire step will require no force at all and the chip should simply drop into place.

    5) Close the metal casing and the retention lever to lock the CPU in place. This will require some force but don't panic since this is normal.

    6) Now grab the CPU cooler ([url=http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/2169/cpucooler.png]see here[/url]) that arrived with the CPU and place it directly ontop of the CPU socket. It comes with pre-applied thermal paste so make sure not to touch the bottom of it and smudge it. You should notice the fasteners on the CPU cooler line up with the holes around the CPU socket on the motherboard.

    7) Plug the CPU fan cable into a 3 pin plug on the motherboard. This should be near the CPU socket and will literally look like 3/4 pins in a row protruding alone somewhere around the motherboard (don't worry if you see 4 pins, it'll still work with the 3 pin fan connector. Just leave the pin on the right exposed).

    8) Now move to the RAM slots and push the white tabs on the side of them (leaving them open to recieve the RAM). Take both the RAM DIMMS ([url=http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4025/ramf.png]see here[/url]) out of their box and align them with the two slots (one at a time). It's impossible to plug them in the wrong way around because if you notice: there's a gap on both the bottom of the RAM and the slot that'll help you determine the correct rotation. The tabs on the side should clip themselves in once you push the RAM all the way into the sockets.

    9) You now need to replace the fake IO Shield ([url=http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/144/images/6ioshield.JPG]see here[/url]) inside the case ([url=http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/8858/insidecasef.jpg]see here[/url]). First: remove the fake one at the top left inside. You'll have to push outwards rather than into the case to get it removed. Now go into your motherboard box and find the one included in there. Place that into the IO Shield hole (from the outside remember).

    10) Get your screwdriver out. Place the motherboard into the top-left corner of the case. Then use the screws included with your case to screw the motherboard onto the points inside the case. Try and get as many as you can but don't worry if you miss a few points: just as long as you get enough in that it's stable and doesn't make contact with the raw case (excluding the screw holes) it's fine.

    11) There's a fan cable attached to the fan above the IO Shield. Grab it and plug that one in the same way you plugged the CPU Fan in.

    12) Probably the hardest part of the build now: plugging in the case headers. Find the wires attached to the front of your case and prepare to plug them into the bottom of the motherboard. You'll need to refer to your motherboard manual here since the procedure can vary. The most important thing is just making sure you get the 'power on' and 'reset' cables plugged in correctly. The Front USB ports and Front Audio are secondary.

    13) Remove the other side of the case.

    14) Get both the Optical Drive ([url=http://www.stealthtech.com.au/images/samsung%20dvdrw.jpg]see here[/url]) and the Hard Drive ([url=http://images.tekheads.co.uk/product_images/large/SAMSUNG-HD502HJ-SPINPOINT-F3-1-TEK.jpg]see here[/url]) out of their boxes & bubble wrap. Now get the two SATA cables ([url=http://www.kenable.co.uk/images/sata.jpg]see here[/url]) out of the motherboard box. Place both cables into the Optical Drive and Hard Drive. You'll notice there are little nooks at the head of each cable that indicate which way it needs to be plugged in on both drives.

    15) Grab the Optical Drive and go back to the diagram of inside the case ([url=http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/8858/insidecasef.jpg]here[/url]). Place it horizontally into the 5.25" drive bay (from the outside of the case). You'll notice the screw holes line up with the ones on the side of the optical drive (there are screw holes on both sides). Get your screwdriver and screw it in securely.

    16) Now it's time for a similar procedure with the Hard Drive. Place it horizontally (this time from the inside of the case) into one of the 3.5"/2.5" hard drive bays. You'll notice this time that on the top two slots there are 4 screw holes on each side instead of 2. This just indicates the bays that support 2.5" drives (like SSDs). Since your using a 3.5" Hard Drive just ignore this and only screw in the outermost holes if you do use the uppermost bays.

    17) Route the cables into the cable tidying holes so that they're around the back and then route them back through the hole closest to the SATA plugs at the bottom-right of the motherboard ([url=http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1171/motherboards.png]here's that diagram again[/url]).

    18) Time to get the Power Supply ([url=http://www.overclockers.co.uk/pimg/CA-006-XF_400.jpg]see here[/url]) out of it's box. Place it into the gasket at the bottom left of the case from the inside. You, of course, want the wires facing into the case and the plug & power on button facing out of it. Don't be tempted to plug it in yet.

    19) There's now a mess of cables at the bottom of the case. Find the 20+4-pin power connector ([url=http://0.tqn.com/d/pcsupport/1/0/1/7/-/-/atx-24pin-molex-39-01-2240.jpg]see here[/url]). Like with the SATA cables: first route it through the cable tidying holes and then into the closest hole to the 20/24-pin plug on the center-right of your motherboard. It should clip into place with a bit of force (probably won't be audible).

    20) Now find 2 SATA Power Cables ([url=http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/sataindex.jpg]see here[/url]). Route them around the back, then plug them into both the hard drive and optical drive.

    21) Now find the 4-pin CPU Power Cable ([url=http://0.tqn.com/d/pcsupport/1/0/6/7/-/-/atx-4pin-molex-39-01-2040.jpg]see here[/url]). Route it around the back but this time the socket is at the top-left of the motherboard, so route it accordingly.

    22) We're nearly done! Remove the top two video card brackets next to the PCI-E slot (under the IO).

    23) Now get the video card out of it's box. Place it horizontally into the PCI-E slot ([url=http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1171/motherboards.png]here's the motherboard diagram[/url]). Like with the RAM: the tab on the side should automatically clip into a nook on the card when it's fitted correctly. If you need to re-fit it make sure to unclip this tab before you remove and re-place it.

    24) Screw the video card bracket into the case with two screws that came with the case.

    25) The video card may or may not need an extra PCI-E power connector ([url=http://images.brighthub.com/85/1/8519993BACBF3074212DC5C5382462069D2F0CBF_lis.jpg]see here[/url]). Look at the top-right of the card and see if there's a plug for one. If not: skip this step.

    26) Everything internally should be plugged in. Attach either a DVI or HDMI cable to the video card from the outside at the back and plug the other end into a monitor.

    27) Plug in the power supply with the cable that came with it, turn it on and press the 'power on' button on the front of your case. If all goes well it should power up. Ready to install Windows.

    28) Turn it off. Hide away the cables inside the case to tidy things up then put the sides of the case back on.
    [URL="http://www.pcgamer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=177031&postcount=10"]Shamelessly ripped from this thread off Carbonific. [/URL]
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    US Builds (WIP):

    Low end:
    CPU: [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103943"]AMD A6-3650 APU[/URL]
    Mobo: [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157260"]ASRock A75M FM1[/URL]
    RAM: [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231276"]G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB[/URL]
    PSU: [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033"]Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D[/URL]
    Case: [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146059"]NZXT BETA EVO Classic Series[/URL] or [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352009"]Fractal Design Core 1000[/URL]
    (Used NZXT for price)
    DVD Drive: [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233"]Samsung Drive[/URL]
    Hard Disk: [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769"]Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 7200RPM[/URL]
    OS: [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986"]Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit[/URL]

    Price: $464.93 before shipping/tax

    Compiled into a Wishlist: [URL="http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=17290252"]List[/URL]
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    Hmm, something from Malaysia in the £1000 region

    CPU: Intel i5 2500k
    Cooler: Cooler Master V6GT
    Mobo: Asus P8Z68-V
    RAM: Corsair Gaming 2GB X4
    GPU: N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II/OC x2 in SLi
    PSU: Corsair TX 750w
    Case: Cooler Master HAF X
    DVD Drive: HP DVD Burner 24x
    Hard Disk: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 7200RPM
    OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit

    [url]http://images.lowyat.net/pricelist/viewnet.pdf[/url]
    [url]http://images.lowyat.net/pricelist/czone.pdf[/url]
    [url]http://images.lowyat.net/pricelist/cycom.pdf[/url]
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    USA Midrange:

    CPU: [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078]i3 2100[/url]
    GPU: [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150561]XFX Radeon HD 6870[/url]
    Case: [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811233067]Gigabyte GZ-KF03B[/url]
    Motherboard: [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130579]MSI H67 motherboard[/url]
    DVD Drive: [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289]Lite-On iHAS 124-04[/url]
    Hard Drive: [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185]Samsung Spinpoint F3[/url]
    RAM: [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253]G.Skill DDR3 1333[/url]
    PSU: [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371035]Antec Earthwatts EA500D[/url]
    OS: [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986]Windows 7 Home Premium[/url]

    Total (before S&H): $669.91

    (Wanted to make a wishlist, but my browser seems to be having trouble with NewEgg)
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    UK £400 build
    CPU- [URL="http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-306-AM"]AMD A6 APU[/URL]
    Motherboard- [URL="http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-359-GI"]Gigabyte GA-A75M-D2H[/URL]
    RAM -[URL="http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-134-CR"]Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB[/URL]
    PowerSupply- [URL="http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-146-AN"]Antec High Current Gamer 400W[/URL]
    Case- [URL="http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-101-AN"]Antec 300[/URL]
    Optical drive- [URL="http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CD-099-LG"]OcUK generic [/URL]
    HDD- [URL="http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-366-WD"]Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB[/URL]
    OS- [URL="http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=SW-127-MS"]Windows 7[/URL]

    UK£600
    CPU- [URL="http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-360-IN"]i5 2500k[/URL]
    CPU Cooler- [URL="http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-029-CM"]Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus[/URL]
    Motherboard- [URL="http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-483-AS"]Asus P8Z68-V[/URL]
    Ram- [URL="http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-183-OC"]OCZ Gold 4GB[/URL]
    PSU- [URL="http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-042-BQ&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat="]BeQuiet Pure Power L7 530W[/URL]
    Video Card- [URL="http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-155-EA&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat="]EVGA GeFire GTX 560ti[/URL]
    Case- [URL="http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-101-AN"]Antec 300[/URL]
    Optical drive- [URL="http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CD-099-LG"]OcUK generic [/URL]
    HDD- [URL="http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-366-WD"]Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB[/URL]
    OS- [URL="http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=SW-127-MS"]Windows 7[/URL]
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